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Far Out!I took these pictures earlier today. This year has exceptional colors.
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Far Out!I took these pictures earlier today. This year has exceptional colors.
In the old days we did it in the darkroom. A dye transfer would take a full day and cost $100 just to do one 8x10 print.Tour, are you sure you're not running that through software...amazing...
Thanks, Cary.Hey, I was just talking to an owner today that is towing his Camp-Inn with a EV. It is a Kia EV6 and he is regular on a EV6 forum and there are some good threads on there about towing. Here is a post he posted on there about regenerative braking:
Theoretical Question about regen/towing
His comment is as follows - you may wish to browse the EV6 forum first (search term = "towing") - there are several threads there that are probably better suited to the Camp-Inn community (my thread is really more about theoretical regenerative braking tradeoffs)
He is towing a Ultra 550 and seeing about a 40% loss in range.
Cary
Hey, I was just talking to an owner today that is towing his Camp-Inn with a EV. It is a Kia EV6 and he is regular on a EV6 forum and there are some good threads on there about towing. Here is a post he posted on there about regenerative braking:
Theoretical Question about regen/towing
His comment is as follows - you may wish to browse the EV6 forum first (search term = "towing") - there are several threads there that are probably better suited to the Camp-Inn community (my thread is really more about theoretical regenerative braking tradeoffs)
He is towing a Ultra 550 and seeing about a 40% loss in range.
Cary
It would be interesting to make the same highway/conditions run with the the CI brakes enabled, and disabled to note any change in range due to regenerative braking changes, and also in handling during braking as well. Wouldn't want to disable them if braking situations became difficult because of it.
In the old days we did it in the darkroom. A dye transfer would take a full day and cost $100 just to do one 8x10 print.
I'm the person in Cary's post above, and I just joined the Forum here. Cary suggested to me that I might chime in with more details, which I am happy to do.
We chose our car first (a Kia EV6 AWD) in part for its modest towing capability (rated for 2300 lb in the US) that is well matched to a lightweight camp trailer. We added the tow hardware and the electrical harness a month in advance of acquiring our 550 Ultra. The car itself is fun to drive. Towing the Camp-Inn is very easy -- the EV has plenty of power and the road handling is always stable and sure-footed.
Returning home on a recent trip I had the luxury of being able to gather some efficiency data at highway speeds, where the aerodynamics penalty is larger. This was facilitated by relatively open roads, and an overpowered EV with cruise control. This is in-use data, so I had to accept the influences of other traffic, weather, road conditions, and my desire to get home before dark.
At 55-60 mph, I measured -38% in mi/kW
At 60-65 mph, I measured -41% in mi/kW
At 70-75 mph, I measured -44% in mi/kW (less data here, greater uncertainty)
No great surprises there -- other than that the teardrop shape is actually not so bad, at least when following the profile of the EV6. The practical range when towing our loaded teardrop is around 150 mi (about 40% down from 260 mi). Theoretically it could be a bit higher but I rarely top off the battery -- doing that comes with some battery degradation issues (which if occasional, I don't mind) and a significant time penalty (which I do).
YMMV (literally)
Perhaps I'll comment on other tradeoffs of towing and camping with an EV, but I'll probably do that in individual threads/posts
Doug
Thanks, Cary.
"He is towing a CampInn" is the money quote here for me.
I'm interested in hearing more, on that.
Any EV drivers now towing or have towed a CI with one, pls feel free to chime in here:
Informal Poll Cico 2023
I'm guessing there are a lot of interested readers looking for actual proven use vs hypotheticals, in shopping for next tow vehicle, or do-it-all one vehicle upgrade.
PS: I took your interest in regen braking to be related to tow vehicles, not the CampInn itself...
Am I correct?
Good looking car!hi Kevin,
I'm approaching what it sounds like you want ("actual proven use") but my personal experience has been limited so far.
I can say that the EV6 is a serviceable tow vehicle for a lightweight camp trailer, such as a CampInn. There are some big plusses (I have safety and peace of mind when towing, and I don't worry about needing an electrical hookup) and some big minuses (range anxiety is real and more of a problem in remote areas).
Yes to your PS -- It was a general question about the physics, rather than the specific tow vehicle or the trailer. I have the trailer brakes and it is good to know that they are there and operating properly.
Hard to believe but on the first day of October it reached an official 88 degrees here in Ogema,WI. At my house it was 92.
Their names were Ron and Missy with the Cottonwood awning.
Was mid 80's in necedah. I hear that by mid week it will be "normal" again in the mid 50's....
They on the forum? Love to know where they got it, its the best tent I ever had....
They are on the list of attendees. Ask Betsey to have them contact you. Bingo, problem solved!They on the forum? Love to know where they got it, its the best tent I ever had....
I'm a little nervous about used or old because of 'dry rot' --- but I really want a "new one"!!!!
It hit 91° at the campground by mid afternoon Sunday.
Yes, Ron is on the forum. He goes by hiadventurer
Betsey
Was mid 80's in necedah. I hear that by mid week it will be "normal" again in the mid 50's....
Missed ya, was hoping you'd be at CICO.....