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Are you traveling through areas often that need it? At least in my area I don't have a lot of toll roads...but almost everyone I've driven (Kansas, Florida, Illinois) most have pay-by-plate. Crossing the ohio river into Louisville -- they just mail me an invoice. Illinois makes it a little harder, you have to log on to a portal and create an account with your license plate number.

No hardware required. Last time I was in Florida, they did pay by plate --- if my memory servers. It costs just a little more, but you don't have do purchase anything. Tolls are higher though...it really depends on how often you'll be using it methinks.
It's been a while since I got my ez-pass but I think its $25 but then they give you that much credit. It's available at most convenience stores. You need to setup an account and likely a way for them to auto charge when it gets below some limit. It might be $0 or something like $5. You stick it on the windshield near the mirror. Last year on our big trip to Arizona and back it was mostly accepted everywhere. Not Oklahoma though, got that bill in the mail which was like $65. Ouch.
It costs less if I do pay by plate in Illinois however it’s only good for IL. If I use I-Pass it’s good for most states but more important its good for the states I would travel.

I would use it 2-4 times a year.
 
It costs less if I do pay by plate in Illinois however it’s only good for IL. If I use I-Pass it’s good for most states but more important its good for the states I would travel.

I would use it 2-4 times a year.

I am fundimentally opposed to toll roads. The Chicago toll roads especailly. Insanely expensvie, first, second, we still pay gasoline taxes that are set aside for roads...and springfield promised that once the toll roads paid for themslves, the tolls would be removed.

Believe that, and I've got some prime land in Florida I'd love to talk to you about.

I digress. I personally travel miles out of my way to avoid tolls. From Indianapolis I drive to bloomington-normal and head north. In Madison area there isa bout 5 miles that are toll roads. I exit there and take surface streets. I can't stand them.

There are places where the toll road is the only viable way -- like in Kansas, and in that case, I can almost understand it -- the miles and near vacant state means revenue has to be made somehwere. Of course, the minute it becomes a federal highway....ahem...federal tax in my gasoline...just sayin'.
 
I am fundimentally opposed to toll roads. The Chicago toll roads especailly. Insanely expensvie, first, second, we still pay gasoline taxes that are set aside for roads...and springfield promised that once the toll roads paid for themslves, the tolls would be removed.

Believe that, and I've got some prime land in Florida I'd love to talk to you about.

I digress. I personally travel miles out of my way to avoid tolls. From Indianapolis I drive to bloomington-normal and head north. In Madison area there isa bout 5 miles that are toll roads. I exit there and take surface streets. I can't stand them.

There are places where the toll road is the only viable way -- like in Kansas, and in that case, I can almost understand it -- the miles and near vacant state means revenue has to be made somehwere. Of course, the minute it becomes a federal highway....ahem...federal tax in my gasoline...just sayin'.
I’m fundamentally opposed to 90% of things I see in the world. And I, just like you avoided them. Then I realized I was missing out on life and slowly started accepting them while still opposing them.

I’ve traveled that same stretch in IL and avoided it. The problem is it added a lot of time and raised my blood pressure. Then I paid the toll and realized it wasn’t all that expensive. I’ve also compared the Interstates in IL and WI and came to the conclusion IL interstates are much better than WI.

I’m a baseball fan and boycott games where they promote certain groups of people. That is important enough to stand against. I guess I pick my battles because going to war everyday is tiresome.
 
As far as I know, the only toll road in SC is the Southern Connector which is part of I-185 near Greenville, SC. It has a cash option. I normally avoid it since it’s not much quicker for me. Definitely avoid it with the camper. Used to be a toll road on Hilton Head, but the debt was paid off so the toll was done away with.
 
I’m fundamentally opposed to 90% of things I see in the world. And I, just like you avoided them. Then I realized I was missing out on life and slowly started accepting them while still opposing them.

I’ve traveled that same stretch in IL and avoided it. The problem is it added a lot of time and raised my blood pressure. Then I paid the toll and realized it wasn’t all that expensive. I’ve also compared the Interstates in IL and WI and came to the conclusion IL interstates are much better than WI.

I’m a baseball fan and boycott games where they promote certain groups of people. That is important enough to stand against. I guess I pick my battles because going to war everyday is tiresome.


I stay outside of chicago pretty much entirely at this point. Chicago being define as anything north of 80/94 area on the southeast side all the way outside of 294, going as far southwest as far as Joliet. In september, I'll go out to bloomington IL, then head north. Strangely, the time difference doesn't bother me, that is a conscious trip planning decisions, and even though I'm a go-go-go person...I'm ok.

Sports aren't my thing, but I totally get it -- I refused to give money to places that are not compatible with my values. If these organizations would just provide a good product at a good price...I probably would. But when I realized by doing business with them, I am just feeding them and their intention is to run me over....I can't stop others from going there...but I'm not about too.

As far as I know, the only toll road in SC is the Southern Connector which is part of I-185 near Greenville, SC. It has a cash option. I normally avoid it since it’s not much quicker for me. Definitely avoid it with the camper. Used to be a toll road on Hilton Head, but the debt was paid off so the toll was done away with.

The chicagoskyway comes to mind here -- when I bought a new lane of travel on one trip to save 15 minutes....20 bucks comes to mind and that was with 518...so that was 2016?
 
I stay outside of chicago pretty much entirely at this point. Chicago being define as anything north of 80/94 area on the southeast side all the way outside of 294, going as far southwest as far as Joliet. In september, I'll go out to bloomington IL, then head north. Strangely, the time difference doesn't bother me, that is a conscious trip planning decisions, and even though I'm a go-go-go person...I'm ok.

Sports aren't my thing, but I totally get it -- I refused to give money to places that are not compatible with my values. If these organizations would just provide a good product at a good price...I probably would. But when I realized by doing business with them, I am just feeding them and their intention is to run me over....I can't stop others from going there...but I'm not about too.



The chicagoskyway comes to mind here -- when I bought a new lane of travel on one trip to save 15 minutes....20 bucks comes to mind and that was with 518...so that was 2016?
You are in fine form @Sweeney
I can relate...
 

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I stay outside of chicago pretty much entirely at this point. Chicago being define as anything north of 80/94 area on the southeast side all the way outside of 294, going as far southwest as far as Joliet. In september, I'll go out to bloomington IL, then head north. Strangely, the time difference doesn't bother me, that is a conscious trip planning decisions, and even though I'm a go-go-go person...I'm ok.

Sports aren't my thing, but I totally get it -- I refused to give money to places that are not compatible with my values. If these organizations would just provide a good product at a good price...I probably would. But when I realized by doing business with them, I am just feeding them and their intention is to run me over....I can't stop others from going there...but I'm not about too.



The chicagoskyway comes to mind here -- when I bought a new lane of travel on one trip to save 15 minutes....20 bucks comes to mind and that was with 518...so that was 2016?
I just like sports. I’m currently a season ticket holder for the Wausau Woodchucks. It’s a college wooden bat league where they are being groomed for the pros.

 
I just like sports. I’m currently a season ticket holder for the Wausau Woodchucks. It’s a college wooden bat league where they are being groomed for the pros.


I grew up with the sound of the Chicago White Sox being a constant sound in my home. fond memories. If I were going to give any time to them, it would be at that level or lower. I dont' like how sports has changed from a healthy pastime to a near relgious experience. Look at the bears right now...its kind of a sickness if you ask me.

It looks like the north woods league may be bucking that trend with higher attendance and focus on friendly.
 
I grew up with the sound of the Chicago White Sox being a constant sound in my home. fond memories. If I were going to give any time to them, it would be at that level or lower. I dont' like how sports has changed from a healthy pastime to a near relgious experience. Look at the bears right now...its kind of a sickness if you ask me.

It looks like the north woods league may be bucking that trend with higher attendance and focus on friendly.
The players really appreciate us fans. The group I’m with are very vocal. Especially me. I’ve been told my voice carries by a lot of people. Plus we have front row tickets right behind home plate. The batters are mere feet away.
 
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