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Not To Start An Argument But....new Tires Which One?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by campdude, Dec 6, 2021.

  1. campdude

    campdude Ranger

    Okay I am looking for advice,

    If this is like any other car, motorcycle, boat, trailer forum then I would expect a lot of opinions.

    I have a 550 Ultra with baby moons. I am looking for something that won't generate a lot of heat, and will wear well, and ride good. The Goodyears and Maxxis are load "D" which is typically a stiffer tire and may be a rougher or bouncier ride quality. Now I will only inflate to approx. 32lbs. On the plus side they are speed rated at higher than the Carlise HD that I can get in a C".

    With that said, the weight of the "drop" is not a concern for any of the tires I am looking at below:

    1. Goodyear Endurance 205/75-14
    2. Maxxis M8008 Plus 205/75-14
    3. Carlisle HD 205/75-14
    4. Micky Thompson 37/13.50-17
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2021
  2. rotus8

    rotus8 Ranger Donating Member

    I am a fan of Maxxis tires for trailers. I have them on my Camp-Inn as well as my car hauler. They can be hard to find sometimes.
     
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  3. campdude

    campdude Ranger

    I never had them but heard real good reviews. There is a new 8008 PLUS that is supposed to be better sidewall . What psi do you run in the 560?
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2021
  4. rotus8

    rotus8 Ranger Donating Member

    I usually set to 32 at the beginning of an outing. The label on the trailer tongue says 30, but I prefer a little (but only a little) more.
     
  5. campdude

    campdude Ranger

    Rotus8 are yours a "D" load? If so, are the sidewalls stiff and bounce?
     
  6. rotus8

    rotus8 Ranger Donating Member

    Mine are load range C, and ride fine. The difference between C and D is very little and if the D is all you can get, they should be OK.
     
  7. Steve & Betsy

    Steve & Betsy Novice

    We have been happy with the Carlisle that we have on our trailer. Probably close to 15,000 miles so far. Wearing well. Ride is fine.
     
  8. Randy

    Randy Ranger Donating Member

    Very happy with my Goodyear Endurance on my 560, ST205/75R14

    Randy
     
  9. Lipster

    Lipster Junior Ranger

    Before you decide, see what is in stock and available. A month ago, GY Endurance were out of stock nationwide, and were not expected in until spring of 2022. There is, evidently, a covid related tire shortage.
     
  10. Sweeney

    Sweeney Administrator

    Do you have the SUV version? Cary said something about the SUV kit needing ST tires, instead of the passenger when I picked mine up. Too bad, I'm partial to passenger tires simply because of availability :(

    My personal beliefs is that as long as you aren't getting as long as they are "faced" by an American company who stands behind their products you'll probably be in decent shape. Having owned large trailers and Class A's, I'm partial to Goodyear and Michelin,

    Again, personally I'll find a made-in-america tires. We need to keep Americans working, the current supply chains and chip problems are only going to get worse if we don't. Not all good year are american made, but there are codes on the tires which help identify where they are made.

    Are All Goodyear Tires Made in USA?

    I think for a trailer weighing 1430 pounds you'll probably get acceptable service out of most tires. You're not trying to carry 4 1/2 tons - 2250 per tire, something closer to 750. Many of the tire debates are becuase trailers are getting heavier and the "scotty" effect is not employed --- they are pushing to the limits of sanity.
     
  11. Cary Winch

    Cary Winch Camp-Inn Staff

    This is not a requirement unless you live in some Canadian provinces. We do need to have a Canadian acceptable solution. Here in the states you can run either ST or LT (light truck) on your camper. I agree the LTs will have better wear life and is a good idea for replacement tires.

    For Camp-Inn it is more about quantity availability and the Canadian issue that drives us to mounting ST rated tires at the factory.

    So, Sweeney brings up a great point. LT tires also are an option in your search for replacement tires on your Camp-Inn.

    Cary
     
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  12. campdude

    campdude Ranger

    Well I ordered (actually Cindy did) some Goodyear Endurance 205/75-14. They are ST tires and American Made which is also important to me. According to the Goodyear Engineer the ST are better belts for trailering, sidewalls, etc. On the upside, according to the Goodyear chart below, we are good to tow at 87mph :). (I hope everyone knows I am kidding). Speaking of kidding, I am surprised that no one suggested the Mickey Thompsons in my OP.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2021
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  13. Sweeney

    Sweeney Administrator

    I just need 88mph...then I don't need roads....

    Joke aside, I'm a 65 mph person myself. The trailer feels very comfortable there with my current tow rig. I'd rather not put the pedal to the metal and find myself with massively expensive repair costs...slow and steady is just fine with me. Maybe faster if I had my F150...but for cute-utes today...why push it.
     
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  14. campdude

    campdude Ranger

    I agree, my tires looked fine but it was time to replace. My thought process is that with a tire rated at 87mph, when I actually tow at 65-68mph it should not generate excessive heat and should have good wear characteristics.

    I just do NOT want to ever have a blow out and have to deal with that type of damage.
     
  15. Ken & Peggy

    Ken & Peggy Moderator Staff Member Donating Member

    65mph here too - mileage takes a pretty big hit after that.
     
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  16. Sweeney

    Sweeney Administrator

    Definitely! 65 seems to be a nice sweet spot regardless of the rig. The Fleetwood Bounder, or the F150 and a 32 foot bunkhouse, and the 560 Ultra and Rav4. 8, 9, and 25 mpg respectively :D

    We used to do power drives from indiana to Florida --- we'd leave sometime friday evening or Saturday Early -- and get there. Spend Sunday recovering, then monday be able to start doing whatever we were going to do.

    Now, we leave Friday stop somewhere. Stop in Macon George --- go to Mass Sunday...then by Sunday evening we're set up. Ironically --- tired but not exhausted.

    The timing is very similar but with two very different moods. There's no real difference except I'm generally in a much better mood when we slow down, stop, and take time to sell the cookies....you know, the ones they deliver to your camp site at the Macon KOA. The Macon KOA is 1 of the 2 KOA's I've EVER stayed at, that I enjoyed. The other is in Yemassee SC.

    Bottom line, if we hard drive and "rest" at the end, or we take our time --- If I push....it Monday before I'm normal again. If I slow down, I'm tired but human on Sunday evening....the rest of the week is much more chill. Its just not worth the mad-dash....

    I hope that makes sense...I'm afraid I'm not having a good writing day.....
     
  17. campdude

    campdude Ranger

  18. Sweeney

    Sweeney Administrator

    id have to look :). I am actually looking for a better map source without writing one. Purples and oranges are most common, reds are one or two nights, greens are more common..

    There’s some weighting, but no really scientific.

    Indiana might as well be black coz, living here, I have hundreds of nights here. Our state parks are really very good…
     
  19. campdude

    campdude Ranger

    Well today I received two Goodyear Endurance 205/75-14 tires from Amazon. I had read that sometimes Amazon tires are over 18 months old. The first thing I checked was the DOT date stamp. It is 4621 so they were made the week of Nov 13,2021. My existing tires look great for tread and no sidewall cracking but they are old. I paid $260 for the set of two delivered. That is cheap insurance for the next few years so we are not having a blowout on the road. Now to get them mounted and balanced this snowy weekend.
     

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    Last edited: Dec 10, 2021
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  20. campdude

    campdude Ranger

    Bear, have you checked your axle? You have been around long enough to know that a lightweight teardrop should not go through tires. Granted, you put many miles on the tires but 24 months is a bit premature for wearing out.
     
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